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Welcome to Intel armory television and
welcome to your home another Tuesday on the
first of the month of February that we are going to
bring agriculture to each and every one
of your homes eh we are seeing
very intense weeks in terms of They refer to demonstrations
last week, we already
announced that both the main
unions in the province of Almería
had begun to talk about a
movement to start with
demonstrations due to the
price crisis and the problems that exist in
this agri-food sector, we
remember this The year was quite turbulent
last year 2023 was also quite
turbulent Netherlands Poland
different uh countries and the
primary sector of these countries uh they also
demonstrated uh against well in the end not
only against their countries but also
against uh the problems that exist at the
level europe eh the pac is disastrous We
were watching last week as I
described it
eh Juan Luis Miguel Fernández of the
manager coex pal tonight we have
decided to bring the unions to the
main unions to two of the
main unions upa would be missing eh to both
saha and to coag to
give us their version of what is
happening and what is going to happen
throughout this year, which is a key year. We
started and said last week
that we are in a key year, especially
June in the European elections. It can
mark a before and after in our
agriculture, not only European but
also everything that refers to the
provincial level, eh, we are at the expense of what
is also going to happen with third
countries with those imports, eh, and
really throughout this year we are going to
try Well see continue with
all this that is happening eh Like every
Tuesday we start with our
agricultural news the gourmet brand Sabores
Almería has closed its best
participation in Madrid fusion after three
days of show cooking, tastings and
professional meetings with the aim
of continue promoting the products and
chefs that make up the gourmet brand
of the province of Almería. The commitment of
the provincial council to the
participation of Almería flavors in this
gastronomic congress has been
rewarded by the affection of an audience
that, from early in the morning
filled the Almería display stand in
hall 14 of ifema. On this last
day, visits were also received
from illustrious chefs such as the three
Michelin star Jesús Sánchez, who
highlighted the talent of the
Almeria chefs and the quality of the
Almería flavored products. deputy
for agri-food promotion Carlos
Sánchez has been very clear in the balance
of this new milestone in the history of the
brand sponsored by the
provincial council. We have reached the end of
Madrid fusion, three very intense days,
enormous activity in this Stand at the
Almería flavors stand where
13 chefs from the province have accompanied us, a
lot of products with Almería flavors,
but above all, thousands of people, thousands
of people who have passed through this
fair who have known our province
who have known our
agri-food products from the
best chefs. of our land we are
very happy we are proud of what the
flavors of Almería are achieving
begins in 2024 with Madrid fusion that
is going to be historic for our
gourmet brand and we are going to do it with them with
the chefs with the producers of
flavor Almería with the best of our
land our
agri-food products we finish a great
fair but a great year begins 2024 the
last day began with a breakfast
with products from Almería in which the
main protagonist was the Obrador bread
the pitas to whet our appetite before the
inauguration of the kitchen by Stone and
decton that has hosted the last two
show cookings by Rafa Rodríguez
and tolo
Castillo the gourmet brand Sabores
Almería continues to conquer the
most demanding palates in one of the
most important forums in the world
Madrid fusion that is celebrated in and signed
until Today, the success that
Sabores Almería is achieving is not the result
of chance but of an offer of
products that are portions of health and
quality and chefs who are offering
recipes full of innovation and, above
all, a lot of flavor, an
authentic product, a product original a
product
from the land of our sea
and where health is exported and this is something
that the president always says and I
like to repeat in Almería we export
health We are the cradle of the
Mediterranean diet and that is thanks to our
producers and our company and the
magnificent chefs who
also transform these products into star dishes
like what we are enjoying
today. The clear commitment of the
provincial council for the participation of
Almería flavors in this
gastronomic congress has elevated innovation and
quality in Almería to the highest levels.
This year's institutional agenda
has taken new steps, adding to the
cooking shows that are generating
great expectations, also the holding
of meetings with distribution chains
and companies exporting products to
new markets. The protagonists in the
Sabores Almería kitchen have been six
Borja chefs González Héctor García
Antonio Carmona Isabel Molina Juan mi
Molina and Emilio Carmona who have managed to
capture the attention of The visitors
who have filled the Almería flavor display
for the second consecutive day
Gastronomic Almería which is the
association that brings together the chefs
and who are here me I want to thank you for
the impulse, the affection, the effort you
make to accompany us at all the
fairs in all the activities. We
are very proud of our
chefs, these young chefs that we
are seeing now, we saw them before
with new trends, eh. They are
magnificent chefs too, and if I
You allow it because they have had
Authentic teachers like the one who is with me right now
during the morning. In addition,
relevant figures from the
gastronomic scene have been interested in the
offer of the Almería exhibitor, among
whom the gastronomic critic
Alberto Fernández Bombín and the first
Andalusian chef to receive a star stand out.
Michelin
jimz Well, today the helda bean has
gone from 330 to 267, the emerite, for its
part, has gone from 22 to 1.94, the
French cucumber 091 088 145 to 133, the Spanish and
Almería rose from 71 to 60, the
zucchini go from 86 to 67 the
fat one from 69 to 60 and the white one to 112
the eggplants for their part go from
110 to 0.95 from 045 to 032
the tomatoes go in the long run the
Daniela 046 the Ramos 67 and the Perez of 58
have fallen to 45 the
low prices compared to the place where at the
moment the one we find ourselves in the
lowest prices of the
last years begin to plummet the
tomato the peppers the Italian green 1
35 121 the red is from 140 068 the L mullo
green eh from 137 114 the red is 17
148 and the green
133, meanwhile the California red
closes from 1.5 137 and for its part the
yellow closes from 1.72 to
1.6 euro cents
we are back in this first
interview
Eh well Eh The truth is that it is
quite an interview, we are going to try,
as I have spoken before, to talk
about the importance of
the agrarian associations and
especially the mobilizations that will take place
last Wednesday, sorry
last Thursday, eh The
board of directors
of Asa met to define these
mobilizations and we will be able to know a little
more detail next week but
tonight Dori Blanca we are going to talk
a little Dori very turbulent situation
that we are seeing at the European level yes
indeed a situation quite
complicated and a situation that I believe
shows the
general discontent that European agriculture has,
possibly possibly as a
result of that legislation And that way
of acting that is being taken in
Brussels Not because it is not that things
are going badly for us in Spain or that in France is going badly or
that Italy is not that in general
there are a series of rules that are
infinitely restrictive that are
literally affecting European agriculture and
livestock and that the
time has come when European producers
say this is as far as we have arrived or
This cannot continue like this because it
turns out that it is more complicated to produce
in the European Union to have that
food sovereignty that is so advertised and
talked about so much. And then really, when push comes to shove,
neither sovereignty
nor production nor any type of
facilities, that is, everything is focused and we have
said it in this program on
many occasions, everything is focused
on making it easier and
productions are relocated outside the
European Union than within the European Union and
we talk about well,
production costs that We have to assume
as a European country that we are, but
then we have that European green pact,
those restrictive
environmental policies, that lack of
flexibility in terms of the
direct aid that farmers receive
precisely because of that
environmental policy, that restriction on the use
of products. phytosanitary When
we have no other alternative And that In
short, that policy masked in
environmental policies that are
making producers, well,
we stop being producers and
become, Well, an environmentalist in a
radical ism that in the end what it does is
that Eh we don't have production European
and with all the problems that this
entails, I want to say,
right now we are witnessing a problem with the
supply of grain from
Ukraine due to the conflict in Ukraine, which
has first
absolutely skyrocketed the price of that grain
and with which Well, feed and
animal nutrition. On the one hand and
on the other hand, what comes with
having to depend on a third country
to be able to feed yourself is that we are
talking about very serious things. The
European Union has taken an
infinitely, or radically, path.
environmentalist from our point of view,
which is leading, as I say, to the fact that these
productions cannot continue to be
made in the territory of the
European Union, however, it is curious that
environmentalism in the rest of the countries does not
matter but to say, I always say it, not
the climate. and climate change is a
global issue, not only does it happen in
Europe, it happens in absolutely every
country in the world and they are cycles and since they are
cycles, this is
changing. If we really want to protect
the environment, we must do it
here, we must do it in Morocco, we
must do it in Turkey and we must
do it absolutely in all
countries, which is what it is about and
above all
strengthen the
productive fabric that we have within the
European Union. It draws a lot of attention
and we started last week
talking about it. eh, both with our
colleague Juan Luis surtado and with
Luis Miguel Fernández from cespal that the
broken dishes in France due to the
price crisis are paid for by Spanish agriculture,
being one of the countries that most
purchases products from Morocco and
third countries that in that They are
silent and do not do any type of
analysis when these products, that is,
the supermarket lobby, have
managed to penetrate, above all, in the
French area, which we know best,
and yet I do not see trucks from
Morocco that are bursting at the expense of
whoever is paying the price. duck
once again once again this always whenever there have been
revolts
in France the Spanish product has always paid for it we
have seen tankers
of milk on the floors of oil wine
eh Of course our vegetables are thrown
along the road we are always the
The focus of the media is not always the
focus of the media, that is, it is one country of the
European Union against another country of the
European Union, when really what
is happening is that we are having the same problems
that they have,
but with non-EU countries. It
doesn't occur to me to say that the
problem that we
Spanish farmers are having is the fault of
the French or the Italians.
Hey, the rules are there for everyone, absolutely everyone, to comply with.
Another thing, another issue is that within
the margins that There is the application of
this legislation in France, it may be more or
less restrictive but it is not Spain's problem,
I mean it is a problem because of the
French ministry and the
French minister of agriculture on
duty, no, so in the end we
are always the focus of Attention, I
think that because in the media that makes it
more sad I don't think I don't know I don't know it does
n't occur to me No but the
truth is that you can also
come to think because at a
certain moment Well it is a media focus
because we are all attentive to
them
but they say that when there is an attack of these
characteristics it is because we
will be doing something good. It is not usually said, it does not
say, if something good attacks me, I will be
doing the same thing.
Our product has a large market within the
European Union. Maybe the French do
n't reach those limits. I don't know,
the truth is that I don't know, but what
is true, I don't know the reason, but
what is true is that whenever there is a
revolt in France, whenever the
farmers of France go out to fight. the street
the farmers the yellow vests
everything we have seen we are the focus eh
we are the one in the end that must be attacked
and and the one that must be attacked and the one that must be
shot down no and I think it would be much more
profitable for everyone and They could also make
precisely the proposals profitable,
the protests that you are seeing at the
European level because doing so with a
unity of action I mean all the
countries together because I have the same problems
that France has, the same problems
that Germany has, someone has
added because particularly the
way of agriculture of each of
them, but it is true that we have
a lot in common and that if we form a
common front we will put much more pressure at the
European level than what we are doing
here, not at the level of the Copa, at the level
of Parliament. At the level of the commission
we must form a common front at
least in our proposal, not in the
sense of Hey, if everyone
rejects those regulations that are going to be
put in place, those that have been put in place and those that
are planned to be put in place, well
possibly The performance of these
demonstrations will be greater and that is what
we must aim for And what we
must aim for is Our objective is
what cannot be true and we saw it
in 2020 and we talked about it a lot
and that the Mr. Flat, in a
cereal crisis, what he did was raise the
minimum residue limit for cereals from other
countries, specifically from another Charco, that
is a complete shame and a complete
bungling, which is just how it is being
governed at the European and
national levels. At the moment, as far as the
agri-food sector is concerned,
European agriculture is being destroyed,
European agriculture is being relocated, all farmers in the
primary sector are having a really bad time
and yet they are leading us towards policies
of non-depopulation of rural areas. It
is a completely disjointed message.
What cannot be is that all agriculture
and as Dori rightly says, we are in the
situation like this and in the end Well, if
we carry out the mobilizations that
are in
France, I don't know what would have happened,
we remember that one of the
mobilizations Andrés had a really
bad time Andrés Góngora It was really bad
and I believe that it is a truly
extreme situation that is being experienced and all of us who
work in this sector
know it selling below Dee of selling
below production costs
digital notebooks without any type of
sense inspection of agriculture
Where are we going, where is
European agriculture going or where do
they want European agriculture to go?
The situation is extreme. Dori, the
situation is very complicated and it
may often seem like a
recurring discourse, but if
we look at
production costs, for example. Well, just look at
the social costs and I'm not talking about
minimum wage. Social costs in
general in the last three campaigns have
risen almost 50% of what we had
before, no, there's no need to remember. Well,
everything that has gone up, well. both the
fertilizers, the inputs, eh, the oil and and and and
everything that is energy, not that good,
energy has gone down a little
because due to circumstances different from
what the Agricultural sector is, I don't mean,
then, the increasingly higher production costs.
These costs are not going to lower
the obligations of
increasingly larger farmers and that is going to continue to
increase,
selling in the European Union itself
with more and more competition with
conditions that are much, infinitely
better than the ones we have here because there
are no restrictions of any kind. type neither
environmental nor tariffs nor
collection of tariffs nor anything when
a product is arriving that we are seeing
coming from another country that has
50% less social costs for
example and is entering below
our cost price within the
European Union without any type of with
some productions that are made As each
country allows it to be done because in the end
what it is doing is that my
product is left over on the market
Because we also have to remember that
right now fresh consumption in
households has dropped a lot and continues to
drop. But it continues to drop because we
also have to be aware as
consumers that if there is less and less
production, there are more and more
restrictions, the price of food is going
to rise, making it very difficult for
families to access What
right now we are used to
buying 1 kilo of vegetables, 2 kg, 5 kg or 2
kg of orange, I don't want to say that at the
end. Well, in any country of the
European Union it is already happening and it is very difficult to
buy a kilo, you buy pieces, for
example, no. So if we add all this together,
in the end what leads us is to have to
depend on a third country, okay, that
means that we are going to have
production when they want, as they want, and
with the
conditions that they want, okay,
first part with what which is not a
product that you with a
quality guarantee with a guarantee that it
has been produced within the
European Union and with quality standards that
do not require that first part and second
when there is a problem as you are
seeing now Because well,
the conflicts we have are becoming more and more recurrent,
as you are seeing right now in
Ukraine or as we remember in the pandemic,
what happened with China's trade or what
is happening in the Red Sea, that
also means that there are going to be quite a few
problems. supply effectively because what is
happening is that we are not
talking about the fact that the chi does not arrive and the
car that I bought does not come or
that the tennis shoes that I want do not arrive
because the manufacturing in any other
country in the world is not Whether
or not the ships are arriving through the
Red Sea, let's not make a mistake, it's going to
happen that I'm not going to have the wheat to
be able to make the bread, that I'm not going to be able to
eat fresh produce because there's not going to
be any on the shelves and that I'm going to have
a serious problem in food,
just like what is happening in other countries
in the world. So I believe that this is
a serious issue and not just a question
of farmers. No, let's not deceive.
This is not a question of
farmers. This is a question of the
state. because we are talking about
food, it is a question of
farmers, it is a question of
transporters, it is a question of
consumers at a general level and if we
are not aware that we have to
demand a healthy healthy diet
with quality control and an
affordable price within our border We
are absolutely all making mistakes
and the key is there, so it is not a
question of farmers, it is a question
of consumers, but not only
of agriculture, it is that the first
cousin sector, which is the livestock farmer, is
having an even worse time, extensive livestock farming,
extensive livestock farming. It's going to
last as long as we continue along these paths the
drought is doing a lot of damage clearly the
drought is doing a lot of damage it
's
something that we can't make it rain to make
it realistic we can't make it
rain but we can help those
ranchers to have a watering place for
the water to arrive, for them to have this aid
to compensate for those high costs that they
are suffering because they have to give them
additional food because they do not have to
eat those animals.
Extensive agriculture is in serious danger of
extinction. Another question is what we have
left of intensive agriculture. Be careful with
the animal welfare law, which
is already reducing the volume that
can be had on
animal farms, so Yes before, the chicken,
for example, or the lamb, The
pig, Sorry, was worth
five, yes, where I had 10 Now I have
to reduce to c what was previously worth c
because it will go to 10 to 15 or 20,
which is why I say that this is not
agriculture and livestock, but it is not a
question of farmers or ranchers,
it is a question of proper nutrition. and
with things, as my national president says,
with things to eat, we don't
play and we are playing and a lot of it,
actually, eh Dori, we are running
out of time, we have left many issues
that we will see now in the debate, look at
the images that we are experiencing at
this moment screen Well, maybe
due to the policies they are
following, well, maybe
in 2 years, a
train passes by where it will show you all that, what
Europe was, what all that was,
or some solar panels or others. Many who are
interested in the big ones are
happening, above all. We are looking at
Madrid or if we are going towards other big ones.
Well, we are seeing all
the great amount of energy that
is being put in and well, we will see that we
really get there. Thank you very much
and we are going to our debate
thanks to you. Well, we are
going to leave it here. We return now with
the second interview of this
special program that we are dealing with the Crisis
that exists at the European level of
agriculture